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THANK YOU! Yes, it seems the big "X" to remove data from the field well and the arrow pointing to right act as uncounscious driver of where we click in search of right click menu. I swear I had tried to click it several times before and never managed to hit the right spot. As it is, back again to preview to continue acquainting with it. Appreciate you taking the time to reply and glad to hear I was not the only one lost! Looking forward to seeing how you guys revamp the discoverability of functionality that got tucked away from view!
I like the new option, but I absolutely do not like the fact that when it's turned on it removes the format bar entirely that previously existed to the right. Please allow an option to turn on both options or remove the format section.
I have started to test the new look and feel for visualizations, and I'm coming back for the previous one.
To be in two examples, I tried to put the same field twice in the same visualization, and it didn't allow me. I did it to change the second one to a COUNT. The workaround was to turn the first on COUNT before putting the field again.
The list of fields can't be expanded, so this is the result:
It is impossible to use.
I turned off On-Object interaction. I think it has a lot of potential, but it still needs some optimization, and first of all - this functionality should not be a replacement of the old one - I would love it much more if it would be added on-top of the current functionalities.
In my case the main reason that forced me to turn off On-Object interaction was not being able to work with old panes functionality, where I could have in example Data pane, Bookmark pane and Object Selection pane visible at the same time, side-by-side. Right now when I select one pane, the other one is being automatically hidden, which drives me nuts, because more often than not I want to work with more than one pane visible (in example when you try to update multiple bookmarks, constant switching between panes is really a bad experience).
Thanks, it works. I was looking for this, but somehow I missed it.
One remark I stil have is that, if you already work with several open panes (for example Bookmarks, Format, and Data) and you want to add/activate another pane from the top menu - all previously opened panes are being collapsed (you can't avoid it, there is no this right click functionality in the top menu). May not seem a big thing, but not very comfortable and quite annoying in a long run.
What I like:
What I don't like:
I have used the preview feature for about a week and I will be turning it off until some of the points from my and other user's feedback are addressed.
Unfortunatly, unlike most Power BI enhancements I found this feature regressive and counterintuitve.
Even though I work with Power BI continually, it still doesn't make sense that I have to have click multiple times to load the format panel when wanting to change the format of a pre-existing table.
Almost at every point, extra clicks are needed to get a result. For example when creating a graph, the data panel needs to be loaded to add fields to the graph. Often I will have a table expanded in the data panel and when creating a table or graph it is a simple matter of a very short drag and drop. Now it is either a much longer drag or multiple clicks to get the same result.
I can understand that some may love this feature. All I ask is that if it makes it past public preview that there is an option to show the classic view
1. The On-Object icons pops on top of formula bar while typing in DAX formulas when any visual is selected and the formaula bar is open.
2. The arrow present in the Data, Format, Bookmark, Selection and Sync slicer panes could possibly used to collapse (by default) that pane instead of showing two options in dropdown to "collapse" and "close", since we already have a "X" to close the pane.
I'm getting used to the new experience and I can see it's advantages especially to new users.
The problem is with long time users who are used to do things in a certain way and for them the change is hurting productivity.
I remember the negative responses for the ribbon in Office and the decision not to allow a "classic" option.
Similarly I don't see any intention by the team to allow users to stay with the old behavior for the long run beyond preview.
Allowing the existing pane to stay alongside the new on-object can be a reasonable compromise.
What changes would you like to see?
-Less emphasis on building the visuals with the on-object feature, use it as enhancement of the visuals pane rather than replacement
- My struggle at the moment is creating new visuals, through the navigation and scrolling needed to achieve what used to be a drag and drop even with only a couple of small tables.
Someone below suggested a pin button for things like the data panel - I'd like to add that keeping some of these settings persistent to the user would be wonderful for quality of life.
If you turned off the preview switch, why?
My primary pain point is that it doesn't feel intuitive. The amount of movement around the screen is making me feel very lost - If I wasn't aware of how Power BI worked or what I am able to do I would have switched it off much earlier.
Any suggestions for addititional settings or capabilities?
Ultimately, if the goal is to support new users then it would be good to do some kind of guided tour that users can then reference back to. Currently the help tab sends you off to the Microsoft learning site which is great for people who have time to invest, but it's easy to get lost if someone just wants to figure out how to add data to a visual.
Rather than emulating everyday office products, I'd much prefer the report area took cues from visual design software (which it already does it just needs a degree of refinement).
Kudos to the PBI team for adding the on-object interactions capability. In therory, it sounds awesome, but I feel the current preview version isn't quite optimized yet. For example, a simple change to the order of fields in a table now requires multiple clicks whereas the old panel enabled you to do that with a simple click and drag immediately. I'd like to see on-object cosmetic changes being enabled with the new approach whilst maintaining the faster access provided by the old 'Visualizations' pane for 'structural' changes. Changing the visualization is another example that requires multiple clicks when the previous version was quicker and easier (in my view). Thanks!
I feel exactly the same after giving it a second try again (I initially turned if off again because it required too many clicks to add fields or view which fields are active, but then wanted to try it once again)
It would be great if you allowed color codes to be used in all sorts of strings in PBI. That would allow a lot of creativity in building great titles. For example I'd like to have part of the title in blue, part in red, something like this: myTitle = "#0033FF" & "Blue text " & "#FF0000" & "Red text"
What I like:
- it is easier / more intuitive for new users coming from Excel
- for some basic formatting / adjustment it is much faster (e.g. editing the Title is awesome like this)
- the toggle for performance analyzer pane / bookmarks, etc. but I don't like that my data fields are also hidden. would wish that one could stay permanent (maybe give users some PIN feature for a pane they always want to see)
What I don't like / why I'm turning it off
- the loss of the "visualization pane" means many times a lot of extra clicks to do the same thing. Annoying enough to turn the whole feature off.
- the new modification buttons are always in the way (e.g. if I click on a slicer to change a filter, then the new modify buttons overlaps into my visuals, because my reports are rather tightly laid out ... see screenshot below)
My suggestion: Make everyone happy. Leave the old visualization pane in place for the power users and allow to simulatenously display the Data pane AND the Visualization pane. And keep all the new features of editing directly on the visualization in place (but please find a way to not have those buttons always in the way
I am not a fan of the new On-Object interaction feature and plan on turning off the preview.
I think this change would be a good thing for new Power BI users, especially for those who have had previous time working in excel to make visuals. However, as a Power BI report developer who has spent more time on the Desktop application than I have in excel, I think it is a negative change.
As some other replies have said, the biggest issue is that it slows down report development. It used to be very easy, and quick, to add multiple fields to a visual. Now, every time you add a field from the on-object interaction itself the menu closes and has to be reopened to make another selection.
It is not intuitive how to make a new visual now - you would not even know that visuals exist in the application unless you choose to right-click somewhere on the screen. This has the consequence of "hiding" away a bunch of different visuals as the "default" visual recommended is usually either a Table, a Matrix, a Card, or a slicer.
I think this could be a good option, but that is all it should be: an option. If this change goes live in GA, I would very much like to have the option to toggle it off.
Hi, I really like much of the on-object interaction. I think it's here to stay, and will only get better from here.
I would like to be able to collapse the Format and Data panes without needing to choose the dropdown and clicking "collapse."
I also agree I'd like to be able to also have the old visualization pane open if I want to move measures that way...
Thanks for your hard work. PowerBI isn't perfect, but it's revolutionized how I handle data, and I'm grateful for that.
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