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Fixes to Power BI Pro License Required Dialogs
Hi djnww
From your message it appears that you are asking why the Pro users are not getting an extension?
If this is the case they are already paying for the Pro license.
With regards to the content that the Pro users have shared with the Free Users, or if a Free User now wants to share content, they will have to use the Trial offer which is for up to 1 year.
GilbertQMicrosoft used us as a beta testers to their product, this is a despicable commercial tactic, attracting users using free offers, and when PowerBI become a mature product, now it is telling their users, you have 1 year, pay or #$()*&^@#$
seriously, how we are supposed to trust Microsoft now, they may change their terms at any time.
at least for me the only sensible solution is using on-premise solution with perpetual license, suddenly Tableau desktop make a lot of sense, or SQL Tabular with Excel as a front End.
- mim9 years agoAdvocate V
I think it is a reminder of the risk associated with software as a service, you are at the mercy of the vendor.
- worldundermine9 years agoAdvocate I
It's apparent that Microsoft is willing to alienate and abandon its users. There are better and cheaper options out there. Tableau is cheaper and easier to use depending on your organization's situation.
What I think we all *expected* from Power BI was to have fees (make them hefty if you must) for BI developers, but to offer *read only* dashboards to users in the same organization. For instance, Tableau Reader is FREE for users that are NOT modifying data/content. Now everyone has to pay to SHARE content? What is the point of this application otherwise?
I don't need to hear anyone defending Microsoft on this. Sure, it's their company and we are all at the whim of their ever changing services, but to simply disregard a good portion of you community is beyond words. All this does is cause us to NOT use Microsoft for anything in the future.
- mim9 years agoAdvocate V
friends, the damage is done, maybe we need to start asking what's the alternative.
maybe the best solution is the old school solution SQL server/Tabular and Excel as a front end, unless you want a mobile solution ?
Tableau desktop is very competitive too, 1 license for developper, unlimited viewers ?
- GilbertQ9 years agoSuper User
Hi mim
I can totally understand the fustration as it is a big change. And at the end of the day they are a business so they need to make money.
So whilst I do think that the pricing might not be very attractive to the small to mid size companies, it does make sense to keep it free for Personal use, as you do with a lot of other software out there. And by eliminating the Sharing this ensure that it is always used in a personal capacity.
- Mardin9 years agoAdvocate IV
worldundermine I may have misunderstood some parts of the White Paper but it sounds to me that with Power BI Premium you pay for a dedicated server (cloud, on premise or a combination of both) with varying prices depending on your organisation size, and then you only need to buy PRO-Licenses for your Developers while everyone else can read (view-only) the reports without any Pro-License?
Or did I miss something? If this is the case then the pricing scenario is very much like Tableau where you would also need to buy a Tableau server along with your Developer licenses.
- perpor9 years agoHelper V
I have seen this page:
https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/
If I can understand the policy for PowerBI pro is also the same, or is necessary to buy also Power BI Premium, wich is obviously impossible for us ??
- mim9 years agoAdvocate V
Mardin sorry there is little trick, every one who export to excel/PowerPoint, needs to be pro too,
https://denglishbi.wordpress.com/2017/05/05/on-premise-power-bi-vol-2/
- djnww9 years agoImpactful Individual
Hi mim,
Do you realise that Tableau server is significantly more expensive ? I did costing for 300 users. Power BI will cost us $50k p/yr for PREMIUM, which is scalable up to about 1600 users.
Tableau, on the other hand, is about $400k for 300 users. Not sure how much they charge for 1600 users. Ongoing fees are 20% each year. Also, Tableau is not an Enterprise reporting solution. It's standalone and doesn't integrate with Microsoft (Azure, Office, Dynamics, Sharepoint etc) products like Power BI can.
I am not defending Microsoft. I am upset with the changes myself because. I have done a lot of due diligence and tested many products before hand.
- djnww9 years agoImpactful Individual
Hi mim,
Regarding Tableau with 1 license and unlimited viewers... Is exactly the same as creating a Power BI Desktop template and sharing it with unlimited users. You store your data file on your network drive and Power BI Desktop is used as your viewer.
Tableau will result in you being out of pocket by $1500 when you can do exactly the same for free in Power BI.
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- mim9 years agoAdvocate V
djnww I know about Tableau server cost, I am talking about the combination of Tableau desktop/reader.
here is my take, I think this whole new BI solutions are overrated, why really every one needs real time, web based solution, from my experience not all users need this kind of sophistications, 90 % are happy with static PDF, I struggled with users just to tell them how to click on a slicer.
I am just a business users, and what i am pushing for the next BI solution is SSAS Tabular Standard and Excel as a visualisation layer, and if some users want to see those fancy cross highliting charts they can use PowerBI desktop.
ps : PowerBI desktop do not print, show stopper!!, Tableau reader do print.
- mim9 years agoAdvocate V
djnww I know distributing reports using web technology is the easiest and most effective way, everything is live, if you change something in the reports, it will automatically propagate to every viewers.
the fundamental problem it is very experience, I know Tableau server/ Qlick Server are expensive, the reason i am very upset is I thought PowerBI will be the product that will change that, unfortunately it is still using the old paradigm.
- djnww9 years agoImpactful IndividualI do have some inside knowledge. However the print from Desktop feature has 3000 votes in the Power BI ideas forum. It's under review and they had a survey about what features we wanted.
- Anonymous9 years agoNot applicable
For the moment, the only way I see to share dashboards It's by the method "Publish to web".
But It isn't a safe way. - Daemetius9 years agoHelper II
Anonymous wrote:For the moment, the only way I see to share dashboards It's by the method "Publish to web".
But It isn't a safe way.I was thinking the same thing.
What I don't understand is why do users have to pay extra for something that comes included in a product that as a user I'm already paying for? I rather have other limitations than the collaboration/sharing feature removed as a free user. It's the center piece of why people (at least in my organization) were attracted to. using it. But now that we are basically forced to pay for subscription just to have sharing capabilities enabled, it feels like alternatives for PowerBi are in the works.