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Prove this wrong: this simple Tableau visual cannot be made in Power BI?
- 11 months ago
Hi cmd1218
It looks like you didn’t actually read what I wrote.
The points I raised are not about statistics but about effective data visualization and UX, which rely heavily on cognitive psychology.Your remark about “why would a user want to see the X-axis” is odd, because I explicitly mentioned that one of the problems with the Tableau visual was the unreadable X-axis labels (rotated vertically instead of horizontally).
At the end of the day, whether you trust my UX assessment is up to you. I can’t force you to “drink from the well,” but the technical fact remains: a Tableau-style visual like that does not exist natively in Power BI.
And if your real-world scenario is different from the toy example you posted, no problem—please share a more realistic example so the answers can be more relevant.
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No interest in proving right or wrong; only to say, it's simple enough to author such a measure.
- Ritaf198311 months agoSuper User
Hi cmd1218
Technically, this type of visual doesn’t exist as a core visual in Power BI (unless you build it with Deneb or another custom visual).
The solution suggested earlier is problematic from a data-viz and UX standpoint:
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Two Y-axes distort proportions and make comparisons unreliable.
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Continuous line is misleading because the brain reads it as a time trend, which is not true here.
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Small multiples are not suitable for this case: they show different hierarchies and also render empty categories, which adds clutter.
Also, the Tableau version is not really optimal if the intent is to:
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Compare performance across regions.
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Compare performance by state.
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Understand each state’s deviation from the regional average.
Why?
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Too many colors cause cognitive overload, nothing gets highlighted.
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The average line is different for each region, so users can only compare within one region, not across regions.
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Vertical axis labels make reading harder.
A much more effective approach in Power BI is to use a table with integrated bar/variance visuals, showing:
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Sales per state.
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Delta vs. the regional average.
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Clear reference to the average by region.
This allows instant ranking, spotting deviations, and filtering by region when needed. Cleaner, easier, and more actionable than either of the previous visuals
The pbix with the example is attached
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- cmd121811 months agoRegular Visitor
I appreciate the time you put into your reply.
The Tableau version is entirely correct from the view point of a statistician. It follows data visualization best practices (you are correct that the regions shouldn't be colored differently because they are already labeled across the top; I did this by mistake because, in our real data, "regions" are not labeled across the top and panes are removed because some "regions" have a TON of "states" and we use a horizontal scroll). As far as your points about "why would someone want to see x?", they don't hold because you don't know the actual meaning of the fields I use in real life. You also don't know the end user. My question was was correct in the beginning. "bar graph of a subdimension with average lines at the dimension level of detail."
- Ritaf198311 months agoSuper User
Hi cmd1218
It looks like you didn’t actually read what I wrote.
The points I raised are not about statistics but about effective data visualization and UX, which rely heavily on cognitive psychology.Your remark about “why would a user want to see the X-axis” is odd, because I explicitly mentioned that one of the problems with the Tableau visual was the unreadable X-axis labels (rotated vertically instead of horizontally).
At the end of the day, whether you trust my UX assessment is up to you. I can’t force you to “drink from the well,” but the technical fact remains: a Tableau-style visual like that does not exist natively in Power BI.
And if your real-world scenario is different from the toy example you posted, no problem—please share a more realistic example so the answers can be more relevant.
If this post helps, then please consider Accepting it as the solution to help the other members find it more quickly
- cmd121811 months agoRegular Visitor
Oops! I didn't understand what you were drawing on above, and then I realized when I opened my tableau link on this computer screen the whole things in smushed. I had it set at automatic. Let me set it to be a rectangle to always show 🙂
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- cmd121811 months agoRegular Visitor
No, it's incorrect. Your calculation is correct in theory, but it cannot be brought into the visual correctly. The line is wrong. It would take me a long paragraph to explain in full (I will if you want me to! really! i'm just in a hurry at the moment) but for the sake of brevity, the line in tableau is showing a discrete value at the region level and then of course a continuous value at the state level. Maybe a simpler reason is this: this shows a slope connecting regions?